Buses - largest fleet, still crowded?

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Written By ears_bangalore - 29 November, 2010

Bangalore BMTC Bus Complaint Transportation public transport

We often read announcements by the BMTC authorities that Bengaluru bus fleet is the largest in India or Asia. Where are the buses?

I find that buses in the evenings are invariably overcrowded. I caught a route#13 this evening at the Indian Express circle. After 2 stops, it was a tight squeeze, and I watched in amazement as the conductor managed to ooze his way through the packed ladies. I couldn't stand the pressure and got down at hte Double road Bus stop hoping to catch either a bus or an auto towards Basavangudi, where I was headed.  The unengaged autos refused to ferry me and there were no buses towards Basavangudi. But another 13 turned up and I boarded it. It was just as full as the other and a few others on the same route.

So, where do these additions to our fleet go?

COMMENTS


Apart from route

sathyanak - 1 December, 2010 - 10:42

Apart from route rationalization and other points discussed above, there could be several other reasons. As a regular traveler in BMTC buses for the past 2 decades, I have observed that many buses return to the depots after 5 or 6 PM. On a holiday /Sunday or sometimes nonpeak hours its common to see mostly empty buses racing against each other, or even you can spot many elusive route numbers, but they disappear when they are needed the most and I have observed this consistently across many routes. One may blame the traffic conditions during the peak hours, but common sense tells that cannot be the only reason. I would like to share an instance a few days back as I was waiting for G4 at 6:30 PM in the evening at Brigade road. There must have been at least 300 people waiting for G4 and G2 with not even a single bus in sight. After about 20 minutes, two G2s came one after the other dropped the passengers and the driver switched off the LED boards and announced he is not going to the destination and sped away with just the conductor (he must be returning to the depot). What is the point in boasting about the sheer number of buses when they cannot be operated at the time when they are needed the most?

One of the reason there are

abidpqa - 5 December, 2010 - 11:55

One of the reason there are less buses scheduled in the evening is the daily passes, I guess. In the morning conductors can sell the passes and get commission for that again I am assuming they get commision. In the evening in many routes, majority of the people will have passes, which acts as disincentive.

Every body wants to work from 9 to 5, but there should be a way to persuade the staff to work in peak hours. Praja had included this in suggestions about a year ago. Again I hope BMTC has not reduced the evening buses so that there will be less congestion on roads!! Ok this post has lot of speculations.

Right said-the evening peak

ss87 - 5 December, 2010 - 10:24

Right said-the evening peak hours are the most affected when the general shift buses terminate the shifts by around 6:30PM- though the shift timings(in and out of depot) are displayed next to the door there is absolutely no use of the same. When out of 6000 buses 700 buses return by 6:30 then what is the fate of the 700 odd people who have used the bus in the morning? assume a peak hour bus having an average of about 60 people then 700*60=42000 people dont have bus to commute in the evening on average-meaning to say they have to fight for space with the others.

 

In 1996-97 under BTS even if a bus didnt turn up for 30 minutes the crowd was lesser-one the population was less and secondly they knew frequency was less-now people see bues running but it is pathetic when they dont get it at time they want to. Though traffic is one reason general shift is the main reason to be discusses with BMTC-if these buses can run from 8:30 upto 8 in evening it will be more beneficial

Rightly said by many...... there are many General shift services and also the fact that during morning the BMTC department makes money by selling passes.....

I'd like to inform you all that don't blame traffic for the buses to run back to back.... if there is traffic then how can 2 or more of the same route ply back to back... it's all the crew mistake and the BMTC staff/officials are carelss.

The next is ........... the officials who frames the timings are seneseless..... let me quote you an example.... I'm resident of JP Nagar 5th phase who have fought for the 215M service... when it was introduced,,, two buses had almost same timings in the timings sheet except a mere 5 minutes difference which I raised and pointed out.... th

Blame the BMTC officals who frame teh timing and the crew for there in proper operation.  Also the break time allotted is same for all the buses in bangalore........

The average operation time of buses is from 6:30pm to 8:30pm thought the officals say it is 6am to 10pm.................. look at the INDORE city which is small, even then they operate from 6am to 11pm.  

 BMTC operates largest fleet

ss87 - 30 November, 2010 - 09:39

 BMTC operates largest fleet but where is route rationalization? If 13 served only people of Banashankari crowd is lesser. But 13 is one of the most available buses that connects Shivajinagar to Shantinagar,Jayanagar etc where people change over buses to reach their destinations-reasons-other buses towards south bangalore rarely come over. 

If you closely observe the buses near the gate the "In" and "out" time from depot are given-the bus which leaves late returns early and bus which leaves early returns late? What sort of an operation is this? 

 

Secondly some areas have more buses than what is required. Eg: 60A one of the most crowded bus-but then why entire route only on 60A-the main crowd is only between Jayanagar and Vijayanagar-hence routes like 60C,60E must also gets it share so that J.P.Nagar and BTM residents too use them-but that is not case-60A always runs empty between 4th and 9th block mainly because 9th block is more of high-end locality where usage of buses is lesser. 

 

Only certain newly inducted routes of ring road are bit properly planned-th other routes remain a bit too many or too less concepts only. Many routes like 7E,7F,19E,28,30,33 etc etc etc which criss crossed bangalore have dieappeared-they could have been very well run with slight route modifications-7D was a major connector to Nimhans and Adugodi  from Banahsnakari and Jayanagar - but it is a very rare route found. 

 

Only if routes can be properly organized and run can the problem of plenty but not many be solved

 

 


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