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Written By Naveen - 29 March, 2009
Bangalore Bus Bus Stops Analysis HOHO Big10 public transport
I used the bus yesterday to go towards Forum Mall (Hosur rd) from Old Airport rd. Going was a breeze - used volvo 335E till Vellara jn & then changed over to Big-10 headed towards Silkboard side.
Getting back was a bit of a struggle - took a bus from near Forum mall & got off near St.Patricks. Several Big-10s were seen parked at War memorial opposite Eva mall (Brigade rd). I walked up to Mayo hall & then took an ordinary bus for Old Airport rd.
The link posted by Syed (click below) is a report that describes terminal issues for the Big-10s.
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/neutral/big-10-causes-big-trouble-city-roads-720
Due to several one-ways & also the Metro construction work on MG road, there are severa constraints for parking spaces in the area & this needs some streamlining. There is one stretch on Residency road (along the boundary wall of Bishop Cotton Girls School) where the terminal can be located instead of Brigade road. There is also a bus shelter there that is unused (none of the buses stop there). Routing will have to be worked upon.
COMMENTS

SB_YPR - 29 March, 2009 - 08:34
...Vasanth,
I too feel that routing KS via KBS is a waste of time and fuel, given the horrendous traffic on that loop, and the fact that KBS is already well-connected. IMHO, the Orange Line ought to proceed from KR circle directly to Corporation instead of looping around the Majestic area. Similarly, the Blue Line can cut aross from Cauvery Bhavan directly to KR Circle via Maharani's College.
The rerouting via Shantinagar and Lalbagh is a welcome step, though. As to occupancy, I had spotted a Blue Line near Richmond Circle around 6 pm a couple of weeks ago (I was in a 335E heading in the opposite direction). To my surprise, it had about 10-15 passengers on board - instead of the usual 2-3.
Regards,
~~~~
Manish, Nagarbhavi.

HOHO Frequency can be improved by adding Parisaravahinis
Vasanth - 1 April, 2009 - 02:48
By adding approximately 15 Parisaravahinis @ the cost of 2 volvos will increase the frequency and does the pass integration helping everyone. Let this be 5 rupees and Volvo 10 rupees. Running Volvo at 5 rupees to give publicity to the idea is taking a white elephant around town without spectators.
HOHO is a good idea but not sustainable because of the high costs involved. It was done to promote car passengers to use buses who may or may not use that when already there are so many passengers with monthly passes waiting in the bus stand without bus. Serving both class of people should be considered.

vinod_shankar - 30 March, 2009 - 05:51
Will try in the evening if can complete the loop using big10(airport port)-trinity circle------>orange line--shivajinagar------>big10(tumkur road)--Jayamhal.
But the important point is that for the HOHO to be a success, the bus drivers have to stop at every designated stop, else it may end up being an empty service.
Regards,
vinod

Not just HOHO, same problem in other Volvos too..
Srivatsava - 30 March, 2009 - 07:59
Vinod,
I havent noticed this problem in HOHO, but I can believe that this will happen in all low-occupancy Volvo routes. I was travelling on 500 series Volvo from Hosakerehalli to Jalahalli cross via Vijaynagar. The bus had good occupancy till Vijaynagar and I saw the driver was stopping properly. Beyond Vijaynagar, the bus was to travel on Magadi road and Ring road, where the occupancy levels are very low. At these sections, particularly near Basaveshwaranagar and Kamakshipalya, there were hordes of people waiting at the bus stop, and I could see some people who were in two-minds about getting into the 'expensive' Volvos. Here, the driver would slow down to check if anyone was waving to stop the Volvo bus, and if not, he would simply continue without stopping. I shouted to him (from the very first seat) that there were a few people 'wanting' to get in, but the driver arrogantly replied that 'such people dont travel by Volvos'.
Maybe, if the drivers are made to stop at designated bus stops, more people will 'make their mind' to travel by Volvos. BMTC should take driver education more seriously.
-Srivatsava V
http://srivatsava-vajapeyam.blogspot.com

HOHOUnncessary Looping around Majestic is time and fuel waste
Vasanth - 29 March, 2009 - 08:17
If we see the HOHO map, there is unnecessary looping around the Majestic area. A worker around Vidhana Soudha for coming to Corporation which is done by most of the people, if they take Orange Line, they will go to Cauvery Bhavan passing KR Circle, Majestic, Maharanis and Again pass through KR Circle and come to Corporation Circle which will take atleast 45 minutes in the Majestic Traffic.
An auto will cost 14 rupees and will hit Corporation Circle in around 10-15 minutes.
From Cauvery Bhavan on the KG Road till KR Circle in the loop, both Orange and Blue Line go side by side which is again duplication.
Basically people want to go on the fastest route in Bangalore whenever they take car or 2 wheeler. Already there is a wait time for the buses which kills time, above which unnecessary looping will kill time infinitely and will be unattractive. Usually few people working around Vidhana Soudha, area get down at the Corporation Circle and take the Auto via the Central Library Road where buses do not enter, few get down at Mysore Bank and wait for very few bus series coming from Market to traveling towards Basaveshwara Circle or take an auto.
Consider the example of a shopper who comes to Avenue road to buy books. While coming from Southern / Eastern areas, he has no problem since KG Road is one way in the direction he travels. While going back he has to go to Majestic or to Maharanis / Corporation Circle. He again has to wait for very few bus series coming from Market to traveling towards Basaveshwara Circle or take an auto.
On the other hand, every minute there are 4 to 5 buses travelling towards Majestic from Mysore Bank. Having both Orange and Blue line take this route is wast of time and fuel.
Definitely this design should be reconsidered with only one or no route entering KBS.
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