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Written By Nisha Thompson - 8 February, 2011
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Hi Everyone,
My name is Nisha and I'm writing an article on the commuter rail for IJanaagraha. I have a few questions for this community. If you can answer a few that would be really helpful.
Hi Everyone,
My name is Nisha and I'm writing an article on the commuter rail for IJanaagraha. I have a few questions for this community. If you can answer a few that would be really helpful.
How did the campaign get started?
Why do you think people really identified with it?
What were the major issues communicating opinions to the governing bodies?
Why do you think the commuter rail didn't get built?
Any answers will be very helpful.
Thank you! If you have any questions feel free to put them in the comments or email me at nisha.thompson@gmail.com
UPDATE: Thank you all so much your answers have been so helpful! One more question. What has the response been to the Namma Railu Campaign from government officials? Have they been responsive to the campaign in a positive or negative way? Do you feel like they are listening to you?
What have you learned about the process of government from this campaign?
COMMENTS
kbsyed61 - 8 February, 2011 - 22:43
Nisha,
Sanjeev's comment has answered all of your questions. In addition, here is the timeline representing the Namma Railu journey so far.
1. Discussions started in 2008
http://praja.in/blog/naveen/2008/10/29/commuter-rail-will-it-really-help
http://praja.in/en/discuss/forums/2009/03/commuter-rail-system
2.Praja Train Trip to Hosur on YH-1 - 8th May, 2010
http://praja.in/en/blog/silkboard/2010/05/09/report-bangalore-local-train-ride-meet
3. Meeting with IDD/GOK Chief Mr. Madhu - 20th May 2010
http://praja.in/en/projects/3110/announcement/commuter-rail-meetings-with-mr-ananth-kumar-mr-v-madhu
4. Crowdsourcing and Report Preparation - June, 2010 to August, 2010
http://praja.in/en/crs-bangalore
5. Round Table Event at CiSTUP - August 30, 2010
http://praja.in/en/blog/naveen/2010/08/30/namma-railu-event-minutes-meeting
6. TOR Drafted and submitted to CiSTUP and IDD - 15th Sept, 2010
http://praja.in/en/blog/naveen/2010/09/15/namma-railu-terms-reference
7. GOK Cheif Secretary meet with all the departments including SWR, IDD, Transport departments etc. - 23rd Sept, 2010
http://praja.in/en/blog/idontspam/2010/09/23/commuter-rail-meeting-with-chief-secretary-gok
8.Support from Bangalore Chamber of Commerce and industries (BCIC).
9. Report and BCIC recommendation submitted to Railway Board - Nov, 2010
http://praja.in/en/projects/3110/announcement/bcic-submits-commuter-rail-proposal-railway-ministerboard
10. One-on-One meeting with SWR DGM Sudhanshu Mani - 12th Nov, 2010
http://praja.in/en/projects/3110/announcement/planning-meet-drm-swr-minister-ashok
11. DULT's meeting to prepare for meeting with Railway board's executiev director planning - 16th Dec, 2010
http://praja.in/en/projects/3110/event/commuter-rail-meeting-comsr-dult#comment-25895
13. Met with Tumkur MP, Mr. Basavaraj and his team for his support - 26th Jan, 2011
http://praja.in/en/blog/sanjeev/2011/01/28/meeting-tumkur-mp-g-s-basavaraj-26th-commuter-rail
14. Met with Minsiter Of Sate for Raiwlays Mr. Muniyappa and have submitted a memo - 27th Dec, 2010
http://praja.in/en/projects/3110/announcement/memo-minister-state-railways
15. Met with Rajya Sabha Depty Chief, Rahman Khan for his support - 29th Jan, 2011
http://praja.in/en/blog/idontspam/2011/01/30/crs-meeting-rs-dychmn-rahman-khan-39th-jan
16. Sent personal letters to MP Venkaiah Naidu, Law Minister Mr. Veerappa Moily and External Affairs Minister Mr. S M Krishna for their support - Jan 28th, 2011
http://praja.in/en/projects/3110/announcement/crs-campaign-email-and-letters-mps
17. Emails to MP Rajeev Chandrashekar for his support - Feb 2, 2011
http://praja.in/en/projects/3110/announcement/crs-campaign-email-and-letters-mps
kbsyed61 - 8 February, 2011 - 23:22
Nisha,
You may want to look at the results of the 'Online Poll/Survey' that was carried on PRAJA in the run up to the Namma Railu Campaign.
-Syed
Nisha Thompson - 9 February, 2011 - 16:57
Thanks for responding I have a few more follow up questions for the community. (I said one in the post but it quickly became 5 :)
What has the response been to the Namma Railu Campaign from government officials? Have they been responsive to the campaign in a positive or negative way? Do you feel like they are listening to you?
What have you learned about the process of government from this campaign?
Thank you all so much,
Nisha
Bangalore by Commuter Rail / janaagraha
Sanjeev - 23 March, 2011 - 18:16
Nisha Thompson examines the Commuter Rail System project in Bangalore and where it stands currently. India faces scalability issues that no other country (except China) has to deal with. The numbers are staggering. According to the McKinsey report on India’s urbanization to 2030 (quoted in the Praja Commuter Rail Call to Action report):
Praja started the Nammu Railu Campaign with the intention of moving the agenda for the Commuter Rail forward. Praja is a social networking site that “aims to be a bridge between those who serve us and those amongst us who care and want to participate. Towards that, it aims to establish an Internet driven community to help make the connection at local levels. It wants to be a networking platform for active and concerned citizens.”
Nammu Railu is a citizen-formed lobbying group created to facilitate more information and support for a comprehensive Commuter Rail System. The roots of the campaign lie in dialogue - the campaign started with discussions around whether commuter rails are worth it, trips using passenger trains to get to outer areas, meeting with officials and crowdsourcing information.
IDontSpam '–a prominent online campaigner for the Namma Railu Campaign has a perspective on why they think the commuter rail didn’t get built. “ ...the subject matter requires center state coordination and SPV (Special Purpose Vehicle) structuring to make it happen. People haven’t been asking for Commuter Rail as a system, but have always asked for one or two trains only in their individual capacity as their need arose.”
The conversations, reports, events, and momentum Praja created is inspiring. They detailed the steps, pros and cons of the Commuter Rail leaving no stone unturned. There is no way anyone can now say there are people opposing the Commuter Rail System. Like most things, this boils down to political will. What is distressing is that given the reports and the comprehensive write ups regarding the growing population and transportation needs in the city, the government is only looking at small pieces at a time instead of implementing the whole picture.
http://www.ijanaagraha.org/content/bangalore-commuter-rail
Thanks to Nisha bringing out the good article on Commuter Rail in Janaagraha. Citizens of Bangalore should standup and demand the Politicians and Officers of State & Railways why Bangalore is treated so badly on Commuter Rail, still why they are keeping quite.
idontspam - 9 February, 2011 - 03:32
Let me take a stab at some of these
Why do you think people really identified with it?
IR tracks have attracted destinations over long period of time as that has been the only mode of long distance connect since 1853. Cities & activities have been built around these stations. Bus services have been rudimentary to most towns & cities and have only recently tried to reach more places. one look at the IR tracks even inside the city should tell you, they cover a major portion of high density locations making it a very good connect from their workplaces in their city to their homes outside the city. People see these stations in their back yard and want to use them for their daily use, right now they cant.
Also because train has right of way and can reach destinations on time with reliability. If done with proper signalling systems & bypasses at stations, you should be able to time your trip and not have traffic delays especially over long distances. Heavy rail also has the ability to carry larger number of passengers per trip over any other mode of surface transport, which makes it ideal for suburban lower frequency (30min/hourly) service.
Imagine travelling from Tumkur to Devanahalli everyday. Time to reach the destination by road will vary on road traffic conditions regardless of wether its Public Bus or Private Car. If done as a proper system the train can get you there every day same time and also enable last mile options so that road traffic can be put to more efficient use
People identification with commuter rail is a reactive concept. A more proactive use for commuter rail is transit oriented development for the future leveraging the assets that the tracks provide and the catchment that it already supports. The future lies in this TOD that can wean a percentage of traffic away from road and into true mass people movers like heavy rail. People today cant relate to TOD as it is a concept that will take years to fructify & needs to be supported by favourable zoning policies around the destinations.
Why do you think the commuter rail didn't get built?
Because the subject matter requires center state coordination and requires SPV structuring to make it happen. People havent been asking for commuter rail as a system and have always asked for one or two trains in their individual capacity as their need arose. There are already 16 passenger services (including YH1 & YD1)serving these nearby destinations that would have been logical commuter rail services but have been provided on one off basis. As representatives of the people, GoK has to ask and make it happen for the people of Karnataka else it will remain conceptual for a long time to come.
There are people who use airports & airplanes who have asked for the right things and got it done, who is asking for the poor old work horse, the train?
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