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Jayanagar TTMC Report September 12, 2009
Written By psaram42 - 12 September, 2009
Traffic Bangalore Praja Jayanagar Bus Stops TTMC Meeting Analysis Others
We met at the Jayanagar TTMC at 10 AM. The following were in attendance:-
- D. Ravi,
- Vinod Shankar,
- Murali,
- Srivatsava,
- Pathy,
- Deepak (dvsquare),
- PSA,
- Shashidhara HL (City Connect)
- Sunil Terdalkar (City Connect).
Shshidhara and Sunil Terdalkar are from city conncet group of Janagraha. They were invited by Mr. Pathy.
We went round the TTMC and took a lot of pictures. I clicked about 43 out of which I am presenting here a few. The main points I would like to make here are:-
- The place was a simple bus stand, much wider and spacious earlier.
- Now it is congested and passenger unfriendly.
- The central Island for passengers is dangerous. A bad design practice perhaps.
- The Malls accessibility to the customers is absent as it looks now.
- The sky walk can be connected to the first mall floor.
- I believe the present TTMC is funded by JNRUM.
- The TTMC which is going to house a couple of Malls may be a sore point, especially in the context of the JNRUM funding.
I will be posting some more pictures later as comments. Perhaps I have to Post them through Fliker, which will be more versatile?
COMMENTS

murali772 - 14 September, 2009 - 09:01
The pictures I took may be accessed here - with battery running out, I could take only four.
My first impressions were that the overall work quality and finishes appeared to be fairly good. But, the pedestrian/ passenger movement/ safety aspects have not been given sufficient attention to. And, like has already been pointed out, taking the skywalk right into the TTMC first-floor area should have been the obvious thing to do, which has been over-looked.
First and foremost, I don't think this can qualify as a TTMC (Traffic and Transit Management Centre). It is just an ordinary bus-stop, with the space above awaiting total commercialisation. One set of buses coming in from Shivajinagar, enter from the East side, and head towards South or North (across the junction); and another set coming in from KGS (West - again, across the junction), have compulsorily to head Southwards. In the reverse direction, the buses don't touch the 'TTMC' at all (In the forward direction also, not all buses seemed to be entering it). I don't think much transitting can happen given this scenario, and consequently, the parking space (on the 3rd floor) is essentially going to be used up by the commercial space lessees (and their employees/ visitors/ clients).
All said and done, this is essentially a 90% commercial, and 10% passenger amenities project, by my reckoning. I expect most other so-termed TTMC's are also going to just that. The argument may be that they can thus cross-subsidise the basic operations, in order to retain the fares low. But, the problem is that they invariably end up as covers for inefficiencies, particularly in monopoly situations.
Further, even as the PRAJA team was at the place, a high level traffic police team landed up there, and seemed to be figuring out solutions to the newly created problems arising out of the TTMC's operations. The traffic signal operations, at the adjoining busy junction, do not appear to have factored in the new kinds of flows. And, the TTMC itself has common entry/ exit points for some of the bus routes, which by themselves can lead to buses blocking each others' paths.
Also, apart from the skywalk linking the shopping complex (which itself should idealy have landed on the first floor), the access for pedestrians from other sides are currently non-existant, with the erstwhile zebra cross markings ending mid-way on the roads. Obviously, very little consultation has happened between the traffic police, BMTC and the architects at the planning stage.

murali772 - 13 September, 2009 - 09:41
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That is supposed to be the index to tell you what that sign denotes. The contractor used the blank Bellandur tank area to provide it there. The actual marking has been done correctly. But, yes, it can cause some confusion to new comers.
I was looking lost more because, if you want to get an overview of the map, you will have to stand in the middle of the bus drive-way, risking getting run over. From the far kerb, it's not clear enough, and the near kerb is too narrow to allow you to stand properly to get a clear view. Overall, good map (professionally excuted job), but incorrectly located.

idontspam - 12 September, 2009 - 09:55
The sky walk can be connected to the first mall floor.
Isnt that a bummer? How could they have missed it? Shows how intelligent the planners are. We trust these people with building our city.
The central Island for passengers is dangerous
Islands themselves if used as busstop are not bad. Direct landing to the island from the first floor in conjunction with the skywalk connection from the street would have been very simple but useful solution.
If you post pictures we can see how many more simple things they have missed.

sanjayv - 12 September, 2009 - 10:13
Isn't public feedback an intgral requirement of JNNURM? I would bet that with a well designed public feedback session for these projects along with transparency, we would have much better results. This here is like the India Pakistan partition. A guy sitting in a room in New Delhi takes a map and draws a line indicating what he thinks is a solution, no matter if the line bisects a village and the village well.

idontspam - 12 September, 2009 - 18:02
If this pic was taken at the Jayanagar TTMC why does the map show "you are here" next to the old airport? No wonder Murali looks lost.
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