Imagine Sarjapur suburb area, with Commuter Rail

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Written By silkboard - 26 October, 2009

Bangalore CRS SWR Sarjapur Local Shuttles suggestion Transportation public transport Commuter rail

To continue the dream series, and realization around commuter rail (CRS) possibilities, how do you imagine the suburban area around Sarjapur Road if CRS were to be around? Yes, water problem is another thing, but on transportation front:

The station

Where is the Rail station? Well, something already exists.

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Dream 1:

Jigani/E-City industrial areas in 5 (local shuttle to bring me to station) + 15 mins (to E-City station) + 10 minutes (shuttle to drop to office) = 30 minutes of clean green commute.

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Dream 2

This one is even better and amazing. Sarjapur Road suburb to city-center (Cantonement) in 35 minutes not more. 5 mins (shuttle to station) + 20 mins (train ride) + 10 minutes (shuttle to destination in CBD).

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Dream 3

This one is bit like stretching it, but did you say you work in Yelahanka, and wife in Jigani? Worry not, its possible. Now that you got a hang o it, the route is predictable. 50 mins to Yelahanka? 5 mins shuttle + 35 minutes train + 10 minutes shuttle at other end.

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COMMENTS


Never saying its easy

silkboard - 26 October, 2009 - 18:33

But possibilities exist, residents of the areas that will get the windfall, and our city needs to drum this up with railways.

  • How often do you see trains on the line in question here? Peak time 8.30 - 9 am, I have hit the Marathahalli rail crossing (the one pretty close to the bridge, a popular short-cut to ORR) closed only one or two times in last 6 months,
  • Why should all the long distance trains come all the way into the center of the city? Is't KSRTC doing satellite bus stations on the pripheries of the city? Why would we not push railways to leave tracks inside the city for better more practical use by commuter rail?
  • Roads get widened by acquiring nearby houses - look what is being done to Outer Ring Road in dense places like Jalahalli and BTM Layout. Why can't these tracks be doubled via such "widening"?

Ask one of your old relatives who worked at HAL. They actually had a commuter train coming all the way till HAL area!

Dream, demand and push.

paging naveen & vasanth

tsubba - 30 October, 2009 - 00:44

naveen, vasanth. was wondering why ring rail would not work.

i did a rough calculation if you build a rail ring, approximately 13% more in length than existing rail within BLR, you get all the rail within the city for comm. transit. (i did a length of lines within city to circumference of the ring type of a calculation)

my ring was really wide. you could prolly shrink it a bit and still not loose any funcationality. but the point is it is almost like buy one get one free type of a deal.

intercity trains on the ring. intracity trains on existing tracks. if you can acquire lands for PRR and ORR and BMIC shouldnt land for IR be feasible?

 My office  is just after this track on ORR and have not seen any train passing by. Almost always track will be idle. I know Tanjavur and Tuticorn express pass here.  I don't know why the reluctance of railways to start commuter rail. My office commute from BSK III stg to here via Nayandahalli Station to here would be half hour + 15 minutes probably bike/car/BMTC commute to Nayandahalli Station as opposed to current 1 hour 30 minutes to 2 hours as of now.

Another thought is that there is plenty of military and HAL space between Silkboard and Marathalli towards north of ORR. If a train track for light rail can be laid at grade by BMRC without any stops in between, or probably only one or two stations, it would result in just 10 - 15 minute commute from Silkboard to Marathalli. It can be extended further to ITPL which is the high density traffic. Currently it takes almost 45 minutes to 1 hour from Silkboard to Marathalli on my commute using Volvo 500K.

IR not interested in CRS

s_yajaman - 28 October, 2009 - 02:56

Which is why most cities are building Metros.  IR sees  city services as bleeders.  They cannot charge profitable rates as they are constrained by the fares set up by Mamata didi or whoever else is the RM.  For them this is a big distraction that does not give adequate returns (I have a friend who is ex Railways and he was telling me this). 

They will simply feed any such idea into their bureaucracy and let that monster take over. 

Srivathsa

 

 

 

Why not rent out railway tracks?

geodesic - 28 October, 2009 - 05:20

If IR is not interested in running services, they could always rent out the tracks at certain times to others willing to run the service. Either of these options are possible:

1. Rent out tracks (and possibly depots) , during idle time, to private parties for them to run city services.

2. If renting out to private parties offends our babus' sensitivities, they can rent out tracks to the state-run metro BMRCL so that they can run their metro cars on those tracks (which is doubtful because of the gauge difference) or provide commuter services with their own broad gauge cars with interchanges to the metro.


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