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Lobby for BRT in Bangalore - focus Big10, Circle routes?
Written By silkboard - 1 October, 2010
Bangalore BMTC ORR Bus BRTS Corridors Analysis Big10 public transport
First things first. If you don't like BRT, think it absolutely can't be done, please keep out, and discuss on other posts. This thread is for those who think that BRT in some sort or form (dedicated corridors, only at some places, or priority signals, or bus only magic boxes, or whatever) is needed for Bangalore, and can possibly be done. We have discussed the subject a lot over past 2 years and have defined BRT as whatever means and ways to prioratize or streamline bus movement over private vehicles.
Next, there are ot of theories possible on what routes. There would be 20 good ones to debate between. But since one theory is already under implementation via Big10 and Circles, it is better to fit BRT proposals what is already in the works at BMTC. See images (click to see original pics on BTIS website)
Some Big10 corridors already have Metro or Elevated roads on them, may be starting with the ones that don't have any mass transit plans right on them right now may work better. Old Airport Road, Bellary Road (leave HSRL), Hennur Road, look like candidates.
Another map from BTIS website showing Big10 and Circle routes together. (click to enlarge)
COMMENTS
Time to speak to Mr. Anjum Parvez and Ashwin Mahesh
Vasanth - 20 September, 2013 - 15:28
Before buses are introduced in a big way as Big Trunk, we should channelize with Ashwin Mahesh, who is working with BMTC on Big Trunk routes.
BRT special buses should be procured to those Big 10 roads where Metro will not be operational such as Sarjapur Road, Magadi Road etc.
Half hearted attempts will only spoil the image of BRTS
Vasanth - 2 May, 2016 - 14:40
Half hearted attempt like done in New Delhi would only be resulting in failure of such a system. Priority lane will never work in India since there is no lane driving at all in India. We need a segregated lane seperated by a divider.
London and Bangalore are on the opposite sides w.r.t. traffic enforcement with thousands of cctv cameras monitoring bus lanes in london, number plate detection and fining. I don't think this will be successful and this is an anti publicity exercise for BRTS, which is not a BRTS.
IDS, Old Airport Road + single lane BRT?
silkboard - 2 October, 2010 - 04:03
There is no big plan as of now for Old Airport Road - that would be a candidate.
NICE road etc, please save for later. BRT on expressways are questionable (because Buses can anyway move fast, plus people don't live on expressways), please. Avoid general discussions (which could be endless) and keep to the feasibility of BRT on some of the Big10 / Circle routes. At least when talking up a concrete project to take a BRT demand report to BBMP/BDA/BMTC, make best efforts to back a running horse instead of fresh ideation. Chances would be a lot lot better.
Moving to technicalities - are there any parallels in the world for "part-BRT", as in small tricks and provisions to speed up the buses as opposed to through and through elevated or at-grade-dedicated bus corridor?
Single lane BRT (just the way railways manage two way trains on single track) is certainly an option (because BBMP or BDA or any other agency in the city does not have the guts nor foresight to acquire land and widen roads to add pavements or dedicated bus lanes. Anyway). Think of things like
- Center lane for buses. This single "track" becomes the road divider of sorts.
- Two "tracks" at places where there is some width available. These are the "stations".
- Magic boxes at few signals to let the bus "tracks" through.
- The "track" would be used by "express" services, which will have fewer "stops". Use regular mixed-traffic buses to go a bit back or front to your local bus stop. Sort of like Railway's super-fast trains vs regular passenger trains.
Doable? Examples available anywhere?
silkboard - 6 October, 2010 - 17:54
Hey Vasanth, no problem. this is building up well. we will all dig deep once we get to a project to write concrete demand report.
silkboard - 20 September, 2013 - 07:34
Big10 has become Big Trunk. New name, new branding, but journey times on the routes have reduced even more. Trip on G1 all the way now takes twice as much time compared to when the route was started. Isn't it time to give these green buses some priority!?
Instead of a separate BRTS/BPS program, can perhaps ask for Big Trunk program itself to include these elements. Very hard thing to get going as any such thing involves BMTC, BBMP, and Traffic Police at a minimum.
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