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Written By silkboard - 28 March, 2011
governance law and order Corruption Citizen Reports Karnataka Santosh Hegde Jan Lokpal Bill
[Update, Aug 20: Took out reference to the reformatted 1.8 version, embedded latest (version 2.3) Jan Lokpall Bill draft, and the one that was introduced in Lok Sabha]
The group India Against Corruption is doing a super job of raising the pitch against ineffective legislations to combat corruption in public services. They are proposing two peices of legislations, one of which is the "Jan Lokpal Bill" at the center, which is designed to be a replacement of "The Lokapl Bill" drafted by Government of India.
JLP draft:
Next, the govt draft:
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Lokayukta Bill, for states, will post separately
silkboard - 28 March, 2011 - 04:22
As I understand it, many mix up the two proposals from IAC. This one here is for central govt, "Lokpal Bill". There is another proposal for states, "Lokayukta Bill". Will upload that in a separate post, need a PDF of Karnataka's current Lokayukta bill to put up side by side. Searching for it.
read this in full, and also some editorials on Lokpal concept
silkboard - 8 April, 2011 - 03:19
May be we should discuss this on a separate post, but after reading the bill proposal in full (above), and opinions on the Lokpal bill like this one - "The Hazare hazard", I am not sure that this bill would be that magic bullet to clean out so called 'corruption'.
Will leave this post alone to disucuss specifics of the draft proposal from IAC.
@ramesh - Answers to your questions.
kbsyed61 - 20 August, 2011 - 20:46
Ramesh,
Answers to all your questions and mine are answered in the Karna Thapar's interview Arvind Kejriwal and Shanthi Bhushan?
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/pass-bill-by-aug-30-time-for-talks-over-team-anna/177203-3.html
-Syed
murali772 - 10 August, 2011 - 10:39
Forget Anna Hazare. The Jan Lokpal movement can go to hell for all I care. Let us just look at the issues over which the battle between the Government and us citizens is being fought. And then let’s decide where we want to stand, each one of us, on the issue of corruption.
The first question is: Do corruption and bribery hurt you? If they do, do you want a solution? If your answer is yes to both, do you think such a solution lies with an independent authority? Or do you think a corrupt Government can fight corruption on its own, and within its own ranks? If your answer is no to that, then we need to create an independent institution to fight corruption. Right? Well, that’s precisely what Anna is asking for. He is asking for a Lokpal that the Government cannot influence nor manipulate. This is the first battle.
For the full article by Pritish Nandy, click here
ramesh_mbabu - 20 August, 2011 - 14:37
UID - No parliamentary approval yet, so no legal backing.
http://business.in.com/printcontent/21272. Why doesn't he wait till it is approved by Parliament? ( In the same context, watch the movie http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120660/). Was a lack of UID the reason for former telecom minister to plunder national resources? Was it the reason real estate companies having no experience in Telecom getting licenses & spectrum following arbitrary procedures? No, none, it was absolute absence of fear of law. I don't think another UID is required to stop corruption at the higher levels, but a strong law and implmentation arm will definitely do it.
The pilferages in public delivery system was happening all through last 64 years, every one knew it. What was preventing the goverment of the day in taking systemic reforms to prevent it? They are still in search of MAGIC WAND to stop corruption & inflation, which affects a large part of the population. They are elected to bring in right policies at right time, to bring in new legislations to reflect the changes happening around, not to search for a non-existing MAGIC WAND.
Flip flop or confusion - Possible in an unorganized fight against organized state machinery.
The movement is against those in power, infact against those blinded by power. There were reports alleging 2 ministers in the joint drafting committee leaking reports in private to the coterie journalist during the initial phase. I had mentioned earlier too about the Koramangala demolitions and how the people who filed the PIL was targeted both by the encroachers and the agencies who were supposed to take action against them.
Isn't this flip-flop?
The government initially did not accept the joind draft committee, but was later forced to accept it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Indian_anti-corruption_movement
None from the opposition in the committee. Where was our ministers who shout from roof top about democratic priniciples at that time? Don't they know that opposition members too have certain rights & obligation in a democratic setup? They just wanted a convenient passage to come out of the crisis and thought the agitation will fizzle out and will face its natural death.
Pranab wanted PM under the ambit of Lokpal in 2001, Moily wanted the same in 2011. What has changed drastically in last few months for their U-turn?
Unelected dictators greatest threat: Congress
As if the current PM has contested an election!!!!!! If the govt. feel so and their demands are out of place, what does prevent them from sending them all to jail? They fear, they have some thing to fear, the public support this movement has.
There is a vaccum of political leadership who can sense the public mood, who ever left is so much disconnected from the sentiments of the public who elected them in first place. The younger generation is not complacent as it was earlier. Post liberalisation generation demands quick answers and solutions, they found a platform and a leadership that filled the political vaccum. They may not be 100 % right, but the general mood of the public is that they are much better than the political leadership who were circling with 10 half-hearted attempts in bringing the Lokpal. Lack of majority in both houses were pointed out by some one, but that never stopped them bringing in legislations what they thought were convenient to them.
I repeat, some one filled in the political vaccum, luckily they don't have baggages to carry and hide!
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