Going over Cauvery Junction Underpass

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Written By tsubba - 28 January, 2008

Traffic Bangalore Infrastructure magic boxes

Back-of-the-envelope analysis and some rough sketches to understand the cauvery junction underpass solution. Looks like the palike will need more than the magic of precast boxes to make this work.

Existing situation
The image to the right shows the the existing situation at the junction. Vehicles going south to north and north to south travel straight along the bellary road. Vehicles from south going to the west take left on the slip road. Vehicles from west going north from west take left on the slip road.
The main conflict is between north-south traffic and vehicles from the west going south towards the city.
When vehicles from west heading south towards the city crosses the road, both north bound and south bound traffic has to stop.
The palace maidan is to the right of bellary road. 1st main and 18th cross are two other roads in the area. Both sides of sankey road and the western side of bellary road are lined with business.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2331/2224721060_a3f5abc3f3_m.jpg


Ideal solution
If some space to the east of bellary road, on palace maidan was available, then true signal-free fast movement through this junction would have been possible. One such ideal solution is shown in the figure to the right. Simply lift the problematic linkage and ease it into the south bound traffic. The main linkage now has to only deal with merging and exiting traffic.
Other variations to the theme, like underpass or a loop that bends backwards etc are also possible. But as idontspam has pointed out acquiring palace lands is not possible.

Thus, it is not possible to separate the problematic west-south linkage by physically moving it.       http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2196/2223929623_07fba7ce82_m.jpg

An idealized alternative
One way out is to move the main link iself and that is what, I think, the palike is trying to do. An idealized version of this solution is shown to the right. It is not so much a U-turn as it is going through a circle or roundabout - only, in this half circle, there is traffic at the center of the circle instead of somebody's statue.

South bound traffic still has stop to let traffic from west going south, to cross the bellary road. S1 and S2 will be two signals regulating usage of the road. When S1 is green S2 is red and vice-versa.
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The bottomline of this design is that the north bound traffic(towards airport) gets continuos free movement by passing over all cross-traffic.
Actual implementation
But the success of this alternative rests entirely on the geometry of the actual implementation.
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From what I have read on this underpass so far, all traffic headed to hebbal has to take this loop. Providing a nice little loop for single lane is fine, but for the entire throughfare on this road to take the loop, the loop better be wide with a nice and smooth curvature. If the turn radius is too small or the bend too sharp, then this design will seriously slow down north bound traffic. Hopefully the palike has paid enough attention to it.

Further, since actual turning on the loop happens on the underpass the question is, is the underpass long enough to ensure smooth u-turns? Also, is there enough space on sankey road to allow smooth u-turns? As is the norm for palike, no details were avaialable on the its website. And as is the norm for papers, no useful information was available in most of their reports either. But a report I read in the Hindu, fleetingly mentioned that the vehicles are to take the u-turn after travelling 50 meters on Sankey road. Based on that, I drew a rough approximation of a possible design. The red rectangles are approximately of the same size as the buses seen near the top right of the image. I dunno if the acual palike design is similar to this, but this figure highlights the challenges at Cauvery Junction.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2034/2224195577_629640344d.jpg
The issue here is that deeper the loop goes into sankey road, away from bellary road, more difficult the turn becomes. On the other hand, if the loop is too close to the bellary road, then there will be no place for underpass traffic to emerge. As you can see the loop is real tight and traffic will have to slow down. That is OK as long as it keeps moving.

If the loop gets too tight, one alternative is to use this loop as a slip lane for north bound vehicles. When S2(see pic above) is green, they could make S1 and S3 red. Vehicles at S3 then have the option of taking the loop to avoid waiting for S2 to go red. When S2 is red, they just continue straight. That way, irrespective of the signal, vehicles at S3 always have an option to keep moving. Though all this switching could get messy and very confusing.
The palike will have to walk on a very tight rope to balance all this. It will be very difficult to make all this work. And I have not even said anything about the width of the underpass to carry all traffic from west headed to either north or south.

COMMENTS


all magic needs dismantling

srinidhi - 31 May, 2016 - 15:50

I would say all the magic bridges need to be removed on the airport road..

BDA jn/Cauvery/RT ngr/Anand ngr etc..all of them..they are the most unscientific contraptions..

However, this does not mean that a 6 lane steel bridge is the replacement needed..there is a lot of planning needed to manage traffic on this road and engineering is one of the sollution..

For example, the hebbal bridge is only 2 lane wide and how can we expect a 5 lane (3 from bridge + 2 below) merge into this 2 lane?

Way too many questions...and engineering does not have all the answers!

I'm not confident

sidhanth - 9 February, 2008 - 21:45

You guys have done a great job on debating and reconstructing the junction and proposing ideas. However without wanting to be too negative, I think we are overestimating the intelligence of the average BBMP engineer. I really think the junction is going to be a mess, its not been thought out properly, and theyre just going to create confusion. It is going to be really awkward for any bus to take a u-turn like that, and couple that with our bus drivers, and their careless regard for any vehicle on either side of them while they are turning, and it will be a big problem. To see why, lets look at 2 junctions closer to MG Road, on this same route to the airport. The first is just after the planetarium where vehicles coming from Raj Bhavan, take a right to get onto Palace Road (Not sure what the junctions is called - maybe Chalukya junction). Theres 3 lanes of traffic coming from Raj Bhavan, but because the right turn is pretty sharp, and 99% of drivers on the road do not know how to turn without cutting into an adjacent lane, traffic always slows down noticeably at this junction. The second is the next left turn at the High Grounds police station. Vehicles coming up to the junction with Sophia High School and Bangalore Golf Club on their left, inevitably have a problem taking a left - traffic is slowed down a lot since the road is pretty narrow there, and again vehicles turning tend to get into the paths of vehicles in the adjacent lane. Add to this the fact that Sankey Road is at its narrowest at that mouth, just next to the police station the road is barely two lanes. When a bus is turning at either of these junctions, it knocks all other vehicles out of the way and these are pretty much 90-degree turns. Imagine completing a 180-degree turn. Its going to be a nightmare! The obvious and easy solution to this entire rigamarole would have been if they had acquired a bit of land from the Palace Grounds and built a single arm like mentioned above. However the right turn for vehicles coming from Mekhri Circle and trying to get toward Bashyam Circle is also important. Without that right, more vehicles pile up at BDA junction trying to take a u-turn. And since everyone is inconsiderate on the roads, instead of waiting in the right lane for a u-turn, vehicles inevitably end up blocking the middle lane, and restricting traffic moving straight to Windsor Manor, all because they need to take that u-turn. What really gets my goat is the fact that given the size of the Palace Grounds it really wouldnt have driven Wodeyar to bankruptcy and destitution if he had given up some land there. As an erstwhile maharaja he is supposed to care about his people, and that would make the lives of a lot of us easier. Interestingly, hes also planning to sell off chunks of Palace Grounds for thousands of crores (was in Bangalore Mirror recently). If so why couldnt the Palike have just bought a bit of land from him and built atleast the one flyover arm mentioned above. All very irritating. Though of course the Palike may not even have thought to ask Wodeyar for some land to build a flyover - its a wee bit too simple and obvious a solution for our "magic-box" hypnotised authorities.

there is a right turn to

thampan - 28 January, 2008 - 05:06

there is a right turn to sankey road while coming from hebbal. Will that disappear ?

Unfortunately...

idontspam - 28 January, 2008 - 06:40

Though the underpass can hold a single lane comfortably, the notrhbound loop is indeed deeper... more towards the bottom of the picture. Compouning matters is the fact that the authorities have no standard of marking lanes to ensure there are 2 lanes making the U-turn. So expect everybody especially the big buses to cut the corners at the top of the turn and convert it into a chicken neck. This does not take into account the fact that there is no right of way rules that we follow to ensure that the traffic from Bashyam circle merging on to the traffic from Mekhri circle does not obstruct the south bound 2 lane only (still) traffic. Since every body from the north heads all the way past Balabrooie jn. I dont see improvements unless the entire strech is completed and hope for some of the traffic to get off at BDA & Windsor manor. I believe this right turn toward high grounds (lots of interstate buses use it) will also be blocked once the underpass near windsor manor gets built. Which only means traffic from high grounds (not including the ones added from mekhri circle, Cauvery jn, BDA) will get added to sankey road (front of golf course) unregulated without a signal acting as a meter for merge Also, at cauvery jn. even though the south bound traffic is non stop (temporarily no traffic from bashyam circle due to the construction) the traffic is backed up every day all the way to mekhri circle just like it was when the signal existed because of the signal at the BDA junction.

The city police are all set to close the ‘magic box’ underpass at Cauvery Junction for a few months to felicitate the smooth flow of vehicles heading to Kempegowda International airport (KIA). The magic box will be reopened once the proposed steel flyover from Basaveshwara Circle to Hebbal is commissioned. City Police Commissioner N S Megharik will issue an order regularising the closure once a decision is taken in this regard, said the police.

“The traffic cops wanted to analyse the situation on Monday due to the closure. The police have identified diversions. The closure of the magic box did not cause much inconvenience to the road users from Bhashyam Circle end. The police inspected the situation at the junction in the morning and evening. The  situation was more or less normal,” Additional Commissioner of Police (Traffic) R Hithendra told Deccan Herald.

The police said that the magic box was set up in a wrong place which led to blocks and congestions on the stretch between Mekhri Circle and the Windsor Manor bridge. “We will reopen the magic box only after the elevated flyover is thrown open for road users,’’ Hithendra clarified.

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/549641/cauvery-junction-magic-box-closed.html


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