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 Although BTIS claim they have synchronized singals all over, except for the KR Circle to Townhall, we do not get any synchronized signals especially on the ORR. Also long signal waits of 120-180 seconds are the major cause of delays in commute. Imagine if one has to wait for 120-180 seconds in each and every signal for a 25-30 km commute say from Nagarbhavi to ITPL.

Earlier manual police operated signals were better than the new BTIS signals which they claim as intelligent signals.

Coming to BRT, although Bangalore roads are not wider, we have lots of oneway roads which can be utilized for BRT. Clear example is the Airport Road, Residency Road, KG Road.

ORR between Silkboard and Hebbal which has got 3 lanes can be a good candidate. Also there are two parallel roads between Jayadeva and Kadrenahalli Cross which can be made one way in opposite directions to get the width and BRT can be done here with two lanes.

 

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Vasanth,

The longer the wait becomes at traffic signals, the more pressing the need for high efficiency public transport (such as BRT, Mono or Metro).

The solution lies in trying to contain traffic growth with sensible alternatives rather than giving way & trying to remove traffic signals.

Trying to address traffic problems with only flyovers & signal-free roads with little attention to PTs is a recipe for disaster since these roads will again become insufficient within a few years. The 1st tier of elevated roads will then have to be built, soon to be followed by a 2nd tier - similar to the LA syndrome.

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why is bbmp rpeating the same mistakes? Having grade separators and making roads signal free is not going to solve anything. A strategy of rewarding mass movement of people has to be followed. Signal free roads & grade separators for buses but not for normal traffic.

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Let us talk with Data.

Like it or not, with the Advent of Magic Boxes on Bellary road, the out cry of connectivity to new airport diminished. The Fact is that it has greatly contributed to the reduction is Travel Time to reach the Airport. Definitely it could have been Engineered and Executed a Lot Better. i would like to generalize the last statement to most Infra projects in Bangalore; be it KR puram hanging bridge, Hebbal Flyover ...

 In my view , it is impossible to have BRT on bangalore Roads (not wide enough for BRT). Implementing Bus Priority is a day dream, given the record of our present conditions. Come to the ORR, you find The Traffic Police barely able to Manage, the maxi cabs, autos, Bus Bays hardly used and public converting Traffic Signals to BMTC stops and the ever growing traffic pile up.

As far as Better busing, although Vayu Vajras sounds great in theory, the number of air passengers using it to reach the airport is very very few. It appears that Bangalore prefers Door to Door pick up and drop.

Regarding Pedestrians Getting Hit, Forget Highway or Single Free Roads, Crossing even our Common 60ft Roads, Walking inside my area Main Roads is also big risk today. Even the Humps don’t deter much . some one was stating this as the "mentality of the current generation". sometimes i feel the traffic chaos has made the people mad.  A total overhaul required in the change driving sense of people.

The total of Pedestrianization, Better Driving common sense should be Separate thread of Discussion.  the idea of Traffic Marshalling  presented by Murali Sir is a good step towards managing this menace.

Going back to the subject, i believe Bangalore requires some grade separators. it seems to be necessary surgery. We need to work on it success how it can be as painless as possible for the people living nearby while it delivers it intended results. Knocking it down based on theoretical suggestions may not be prudent

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For those supporting this move & imagining that it will improve & streamline traffic in the city, I have a set of questions :

1) Which other world city has all it's main streets leading up to city centers planned without traffic signals, similar to freeways or highways ?

2) Which other world city has policies that are consistently encouraging private modes of travel by adding more & more capacities, especially even after there has been ample evidence & substantial proof that such measures have only resulted in more chaos & more demands for such facilities in a never-ending cycle ?

3) Which other world city has consistently been under-charging for road use, whilst simultaneously infusing enormous capital to improve them ?

4) Which other world city's planners have been held to ransom with these as logic for building up the case for more flyovers: (a) Implementing even the simpler bus priorities are impossible; (b) Enforcement records have been poor; (c) Traffic cops have been unable to manage traffic due to pileups & large volumes of traffic; (d) City's residents prefer door to door pickups and drops ?


I repeat what I stated in an earlier paper, that the actual policies, as opposed to NUTP-2006 in principle appear socially regressive, financially unsustainable & environmentally unfriendly - The city is slowly & systematically being ruined, I might add.

 
If cities even in Africa such as Dar-es-Salaam are building BRTs, one wonders why we cannot start a process here. Agreed that the path is going to be difficult & resolving the many obstacles is going to be hard, but it certainly would be far better than encouraging, in fact inviting more traffic on the roads.

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