Monorail as a solution for narrow roads

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Written By blrsri - 19 September, 2007

Bangalore monorail Analysis public transport Mobilicity Metro Rail

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:SydneyMonorail2_gobeirne.jpg Notice the pillar that the rail is built on..and the rails itself..its neat and the best solution for narrow roads like what we have in bangalore! The idea to have it as a feeder service to the metro is good too.. There are cities across the world where people commute to work always through public transport..I wish I could do that and stop driving my car(4 hours everyday from mysore road to itpl)! I would like to open up a discusion on which routes are the best candidates for mono rail.. My take on this is a line starting at the byappanahalli(metro station) to itpl and going though brookfields..marathahalli..airport road..domlur..trinity circle..where it again meets the metro..all the roads mentioned are wide and have a median which can be used for the monorail pillars..

COMMENTS


mono

tsubba - 19 September, 2007 - 10:47

looks like a potential replacement for buses then. but you have consider that this is the mono equivalent of a oneway bus-lane, that nobody else can use. you need two such lines for a full system + buffer space between the two rails + side buffer on both sides not to mention space for other technology specific additions like switches. The sydney system, its literally on the footpath. apparently runs in loops to avoid switches. it will be great if anybody can write about frequency, capacity, utilization of this network. [flickr-photo:id=361636269,size=m] credits: benoit871. a much more robust, two line system KL, malaysia, notice how the footprint begins to rival metrp's [flickr-photo:id=246883739,size=m] credit: clarkie Dilli Metro [flickr-photo:id=37359281,size=m] credit: marwei anywho, metrail the one a lot of babus, ex jujs and ex pms peddle has updated its website check out their new website.

KL monorail

blrsri - 19 September, 2007 - 11:03

I have travelled by the KL monorail..its very efficient..as you mention it has two tracks..but again its a failure financially..so is Seattle one! The more successful ones are in Vegas, Sydney and some in Japan.. Devegowda wants a swiss challenege method for working on the monorail..dunno what is in store and how long its gonna take! http://www.hitachi-rail.com/products/monorail_system/overview/index.html

Monorail - Not for Indian cities !!

Naveen - 19 September, 2007 - 12:56

Hi Folks ! The Monorail in KL handles only about 3500 phpdt (peak-hour-peak-direction-traffic). The one in Chongking, China handles about 6000 phpdt. The one in Sydney, about 2000 phpdt. For Indian cities, & particularly Bangalore, a capacity of 15,000 phpdt has been proposed based on requirements for year 2015, which is the upper limit for monorail systems. The corridors chosen (Western half of ORR + Bannerghatta road from National Park to Adugodi) will definitely see much more traffic, probably earlier than 2015, at the rate development is taking place - at least some parts of these corridors. Besides, there are other concerns : 1) Evacuation in emergencies has to be done with ladders from the road below or by using relief coach/s on a parallel track, if there is one, or by using cherry picker trucks. 2) Switching tracks is not possible, & therefore they are normally designed to run in closed loops. 3) Cost is about 120 cr/km, whilst Metro, which can handle almost three times (40,000 phpdt) as much as mono, works out to about 160 cr/km for elevated & about 350 cr/km for underground for a full six-coach 3-mins headway system - thus, mono is almost as expensive as metro. 4) Coach width is about 2.6m compared to 2.88m chosen for B'lore Metro - not much of a saving in terms of space. The only advantage is the smaller turning radius. This system, I feel can be used for : a) Airport link from city centre. b) IIM to Bannerghatta Nat'l Park. c) Mysore Rd metro terminal to Bidadi - for the entertainment zone there, & other general traffic. d) A loop around the city - such as the Core ring road, connecting inner areas of the city, just outside CBDs, where it's capacity may be sufficient. So, in my opinion, it is better to install a Metro system with viaducts that can take this load - initially, the system can be run with low capacities, & later, capcities can be increased by attaching more coaches &/or increasing frequency/s as & when required. The authorities, however, were sold to the idea of mono after Devegowda wrote to PM, President, etc, etc. & now, it is neither yes, nor no - whilst the chaos on the roads continue !!

mono

tsubba - 20 September, 2007 - 03:40

naveen, thanks for the stats. it was lacking here. really appreciate it. let us take this further. if you think of the area around MG road as one huge mall and amusement park can you use mono there? say i came to mg road from yeshwantpura by metro, i get down, others continue towards ITPL. next i want to go to commercial street, instead of taking an auto i take the mono. do my shopping, next i want to go magrath road, again i take the take the mono, get my work done, then again take the mono back to mg road, and then finally take the metro back to yeshwantpura. perhaps metrail can do a swiss challenge on that. what say? :) next level of this ban parking in CBD. only allowed to park inside building lots. increase footpaths, lots of people, make places like commercial street traffic free, increased foot count makes the place really retail friendly and since you have also simultaneously taken care of accessibility business also will not suffer. how to get from [flickr-photo:id=196567096,size=m][flickr-photo:id=419504189,size=m] to here [flickr-photo:id=1408341268,size=m][flickr-photo:id=1406255573,size=m] next questions, to achieve all this is mono required? without this type of feeder system can metro work?

RTI Ltr

Naveen - 21 September, 2007 - 14:40

Hi tarlesubba, Pls go ahead & do what is best, thanks.

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