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Talk on Corruption - Justice Hegde
Written By psaram42 - 22 March, 2011
Bangalore governance law and order Corruption Lokayukta Jan Lokpal Bill
Date : March 26, 2011
Time : 10:30 AM
Venue: Bharateeya Vidya Bhavan, Race cource Road
Topic : Corruption
Speaker : Santosh Hegde
The start time is 10:30 / 11:00
Likely duration 1hr 30Min
COMMENTS

We are all corrupt one time or the other without exception.
psaram42 - 23 March, 2011 - 10:39
The word Corruption in general parlance refers to immorality, perversion and dishonesty. In computer industry corruption of a system halts the computer for good. So also in governance there is a need to keep it clean. Corruption in governance can lead to revolt and break down of the system of governance eventually, when exceeding the limit of general suffering in the society as a whole.
Greed over need is a good way to look at corruption in governance [as opposed to moral] issues. Every individual need is good food, Clothing, health both physical and mental, and a roof over the head. There is no limit to greed.
In every system of governance is it Monarchy, oligarchic, or even Democracy; greed over need is the spoil sport. Even in animal world there are specific rules of conduct. For example tigers mark their territory by their urine. Every street in Bangalore has a dog leader who ensures that no new dog breaks in.
Giving / taking Capitation fee without receipt is an offence. The offence is non payment of tax due to government. It is possible to alleviate this misery with good governance by enforcing and verifying compliance by regular / surprise and impartial audit. Both the parties should be chastened. [Now can we tweak the existing law to make only one party bribe taker or giver punishable as the case may be?]
Enforcement is weak because the general moral standards are low in a society over and above the need part. Let us decide what we would like our society to be where every bodies need are taken care of at the first place.
Governance is about making laws, enforcing them properly and punishing the guilty in time every time. Remember every body is naked inside their clothes.

murali772 - 23 March, 2011 - 11:02
A public servant who takes the bribe is the gate keeper who violates his responsibility and sells the property he is supposed to protect. “Since bribery is not a case of theft but of collaboration between two agents, the primary moral responsibility for it rests on the shoulder of the bribe taker,” says Mr Kaushik Basu, Chief Economic Advisor to the GoI.
For the full report in the Business Standard, and debate thereof, click here
@ Bheema - there's no need at all for any self-flagellation. If the system is what it is, it is the government and its officials who are responsible for it all. Our crime lies in allowing the wrong kind of people to get elected, and also not keeping a check on the ones elected.

Bheema.Upadhyaya - 23 March, 2011 - 11:42
Our crime lies in allowing the wrong kind of people to get elected, and also not keeping a check on the ones elected.
Do we have right people on board during elections? I see just-out-of-jail/mafia people seeking votes. Anyway, its far away from topic of this thread. We will leave it here.

@Bheema, you have your own DDC as the example
dvsquare - 23 March, 2011 - 12:39
Hey Bheema,
You have the very our own DDC as the leading example. What we want to do there is to follow rules, signals and drive in a disciplined fashion the roads. Similar is about the politics and government. Lets make full effort in 100% voting first, keep check on the people we are voting and change next time if needed, so they feel afraid of common people all the time. And, at the same time, definitely as the number of voters getting closer to 100%, you will also see number of honest and educated people participating in politics. Its all about 2 things -
(1) Be the change you wish to see.
(2) Graudually drop-by-drop you can fill the vessel.
Deepak

k n g rao - 22 March, 2011 - 15:05
justice Hegde's work is really commendable He is a oneman army.Mr Moily had to cut a sorry figure
The worst part is that there no drop in corruption. Apunishment to thebribe giver should be thought of.
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