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Written By silkboard - 21 May, 2010

Bangalore CRS SWR Transportation public transport Commuter rail

Yesterday was kind of a big day for this project. Some of us met Mr V Madhu, Principal Secretary, Infrastructure Development Department, Govt of Karnataka. And Sanjeev managed a meeting with BJP MP, Mr Ananth Kumar.

Murali, blrsri, N, IDS and myself were there with Mr Madhu, spent about an hour with him, mostly listening to his thoughts. He seemed like a high energy guy. And as it happens in the most of these meetings, the ball was thrown back in our court. Mr Madhu asked us to return in a couple of weeks with a report carrying all our ideas on CRS and an actionable way.

Sanjeev too, from his meeting with Mr Ananth Kumar, got this task of getting back to him with a solid presentation on Commuter Rail for Bangalore.

So net net, good meetings, but now, we have some work to do. Let us log our detailed meeting reports here. IDS - request you to create a separate project task to build a presentation on CRS. We can send the same one to both Mr Ananth Kumar and Mr Madhu. Can send a detailed report (based on the presentation) to Mr Madhu a bit later.

Meanwhile, some pictures from the IDD meeting.

cheers,

SB aka Pranav

COMMENTS

I did ask him about suburban

amithpallavoor - 5 August, 2016 - 11:32

I did ask him about suburban rail on the FB interaction last afternoon. TV9 reported that Mr. Prabhu had directed officials to work on the same ASAP.

I had to log out as I  had something urgent to tend to on the work front. I don't know if he responded to my query.

Sanjeev, lets review

Naveen - 30 June, 2016 - 05:09

Sanjeev /Syed /Sathya,

I did some checks on suburban rail in other cities - Chennai, Lucknow, etc. There is a suburban system in place between Lucknow & Kanpur & despite huge populations of 29+ lakhs in both these cities, services are low though the cities are only 72km apart. They have only eleven suburban trains between each daily. Of course there are many (84) long distance trains that stop at both stations. This info is as per indiarailinfo.

In comparison, there are 26 daily trains between Mysore (pop 9.9 lakhs) & Bangalore. Every other nearby town has very small population: Tumkur - 3.0 lakhs, Chikballapur - 0.6 lakhs, Dodballapur - 0.9 lakhs, Anekal - 0.4 lakhs, Ramanagara - 1.0 lakhs, Channapatna - 0.7 lakhs, Nelamangala - 0.4 lakhs.

Considering above, I think suburban rail will continue to be a non-starter if pushed for inter-city travel as the numbers were only 1.5 lakhs in 2012. Even if they start services, it will be of very low frequency - maybe four or six trains a day at best. The need is therefore to attract more urban or local commuters to make it viable, but this would require more stations within urban Bangalore.

As per our submission, we had recommened new stations & the list is attached below. Hoodi is coming up, but others are all non-starters so far.

I can see some spaces where stations can still be built. How about campaigning for more urban stations? Kasturinagar, Beniganahalli, Kaggadasapura, Karthik nagar, Marathalli, Sarjapur rd, Horamavu, Hennur, Thannisandra (improvement reqd), Jakkur east, HMT, Jalahalli-east, Gokula, Allalasandra, Sadarmangala - these, if built will change the viability for commuter rail drastically.

 

 

Not viable

Naveen - 5 August, 2016 - 14:59

We have discussed this earlier & a summary has been posted above. Hourly trains to Mysore may be viable but not in any other direction as trains will run empty other than during peak hours.

Hourly trains between Tumkur

amithpallavoor - 5 August, 2016 - 11:50

Hourly trains between Tumkur and Mysore from 6:00 AM to 11:00 PM could be part of a larger suburban rail system.  

Right now, a lot of trains terminating at SBC are being extended to Mysore. We need dedicated hourly services to Mysore from Jnanbharthi instead of SBC. A lot of people working in Bidadi/ Ramanagar and even GVC would not mind shifting to Mysore if the train journey is fast and hassle free. Currently, it takes us 2 hours to reach Mysore from KGI.  At times, travelling to Whitefield takes more time than travelling to Mysore from Kengeri.

Hourly trains from 6:00 AM to 11:00 PM between Bangarpet and Bangalore could be economically feasible if it serves the Whitefield junta.  Maybe, we need to tell GOK and Railways that Talgo could be used to run local trains as well.

The Yelahanka Channasandra stretch has been doubled. The doubling needs to be extended upto Byappanhalli so that it becomes easy to run DEMUs to KIAL on this stretch.

Minister Ananthkumar meeting once again Railway Minister.

Sanjeev - 29 June, 2016 - 18:58

 

Now public  to understand what Railway Minister is doing for Bangalore and Karnataka

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