Presentation on CRS

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Written By idontspam - 21 May, 2010

Bangalore

 Prepare a presentation on CRS

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Have requested Narayan

silkboard - 21 May, 2010 - 10:35

As we discussed yesterday, I have contacted Narayan for help with a solid and clear CRS map for Bangalore showing phase 1 focus routes, stations, new stations, and big catchment areas.

Need to be clear on what routes we are putting up in this presentation cum report. Lets do two, from this list

  1. Hebbal Anekal line - for sure, there is no Metro or Elevated road coming to cover the catchment areas here
  2. Yeshwantpur - Nelamangala (but they already have an elevated road coming there)
  3. Yeshwantpur - Devanahalli

Not that other lines are not important. But lets pick where chances of a competing proposal are lower (Metro, BRT etc), and there should be large catchment areas today or tomorrow.

Further, taking just 1 or 2 lines and detailing them will make for a better presentation than talking high level for the 9 tracks mentioned in CTTP.

Routes

Sanjeev - 21 May, 2010 - 11:21

working on the details for CRS bit busy in the office for next couple of days. Will prepare & will upload the details.

For Presentaion of CRS, we need to  cover all the areas in few slides, but as you told we need  to  put routes with maximum coverage with more distance.  CTTP has done short study with short distance coverage only,  Local Train concept will work for more distance with maximum coverage.  we should  take the following root :

1 : Kengeri / Bidadi to  Devanhalli     2. Yesvanthpur to Hosur                                                   3. Kengeri Whitefiled / Bangarpet     4.  Bangarpet to Devanahalli  and Dodballpur via K R Puram

Do not take Yesvanthpur to Nelamanagala for presentation. Do not consider other infrastructure projects, we will concentrate on CRS. 

 

Murali, blrsri, N, IDS and SB,

 Thanks for all your efforts in materializing this meeting. It seems a very good meeting and that too with an action item.

I am very g;ad to note that we have already started on that path. Can one of you post a list of things or information that we should collect for preparing the report on CRS?

BTW what would be the objective of this report? I believe it should present the CRS infrastructure in a comprehensive manner.
I am sure it should have 3 components:

  1. Short Term - Improving the existing CRS service(YH) to make it purposeful
  2. Medium Term - Adding more routes on existing infrastructure
  3. Long Term - Plan for a consolidated CRS system that is well integrated with other PT system

Hope this is what we might have to work on.

As usual, my services are available for collecting info, drafting reports, presentations and follow up.

Syed

 Pl check the presentation

idontspam - 21 May, 2010 - 15:47

 Pl check the presentation storyline attached with this task and provide feedback.

As per the meeting with IDD, 

Sanjeev - 22 May, 2010 - 05:54

As per the meeting with IDD,  do they  want presentation or the proposal on CRS.  As CTTP  prepared by RITES did not consider the Devanhallai, Nelamangala, & Dodballapur and  excluding KR Puram to Yelahanaka track.

MP Ananthkumar wants have full fledge discussion with presentation in ABIDe with BDA, BMTC, Railways, Traffic Commissioner,  BMRCL, IDD with Chief Minister & MoS for State Railways K H Muniyappa.

As suggested @Syed

  • First layout the comprehensive plan/proposal for CRS say how CRS will look like after 25 years.
  • Plan that covers next 20-25 years - Routes, Features, Operation Options, Funding sources etc.
  • From that plan, deduct medium term and near term feasibility/li>
  • Near Term - Expand and improve the existing CRS service
  • Medium Term - Introduce new routes with a minimum work on tracks, but lot of focus on new stops, amenities, integrating with other PT services

Here we should not get into the Financial aspect as  IDD / Railway will do their work. Excpet funding of sources, these steps we should progress. Also we will not go into the details of capacity  as this Railways subject, we will  make point  how existing DEMU / Passanger services to be converted into full fledge services of CRS and extending them in both directions.

As Syed told we have CRS in a small  way running is true as the Train Number : YH1, YH-2,  HY-1, HY-2, SD-1, DS-1, YD-1, DY-1,  numbering of trains are meant for Local Trains only. 

@Silkboard :

  • Can some one detail all station connectivity needs with one example
  • Can someone help with a list of stations needed on Hebbal-Anekal line?

We will not restric Hebbal-Anekal, we need  to have list of  new stations in all roots with explaining the  importance of the location for  ridership.

  • Can some one do the cost analysis - how much would you possible charge for the ride?

Cost Analysis should be left to the  Karnataka Govt & Railways.  Instead of this we should suggest how  each new station can be explored for commercial purpose as done in New Mumbai Stations.

Also project funding will be between State & Railways &  our politicans will take call on that, we will not touch on this, We will  provide the detail  on how MMTS in Hyderabad,  MRTS at Chennai, Suburban Trains at Mumbai were funded & operated. 

Will upload the suggested roots for this CRS and  current running DEMU / Passanger Trains arround Bangalore.

 

 

 

 


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