RTI with SWR to get official position on commuter rail

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Written By silkboard - 26 March, 2010

Bangalore

We are definitely hearing more about commuter rail in news media these days. But the state government, and Raily Ministry may be working on different things. Circular Rail may only be for connecting peripheral areas (may be even part of Peripheral Ring Road, as I remember the specs of PRR talked of leaving space of rail tracks on the side or median, you never know). When we say Commuter Rail, we are talking of a system that will support BMRC and BMTC by adding more trunk routes for going in/out of the city.

Saneev, with lot of talk about costs, but no clear statements on what the plans are, we need to file some RTIs to get official and on-record positions of various parties on the matter.

Let us start with South Western Railway. If you haven't filed an RTI earlier, please leave a comment, and one of us who have the details will leave a detailed note on how to go about it.

I will take care of filing one with Karnataka Government post our meeting with Mr Madhu. I am hoping that we will get the needed information (current official position) from Mr Madhu himself, and wont require to file an RTI.

COMMENTS


 1. What is the utilization

idontspam - 15 May, 2010 - 11:10

 1. What is the utilization of track capacity... 

Add e) Banaswadi to Whitefield

2. ...where SWR does not have enough land available for doubling the track between Byappanahalli and Anekal.

??? why not hebbal/ to anekal

 3. ...Banaswadi and Anekal at 2009 or 2010 cost levels

Can be hebbal to Anekal to make it more accurate.

CRS questions for RTI

Sanjeev - 15 May, 2010 - 11:57

Kindly note the following points for Railways:

@   1 : utilization of track capacity at following stretches.   c) Yesvanthpur  to Banaswadi via Hebbal  

Add following  points to this

f) Banaswadi  to Whitefield  via  Biyapanhalli  g) between  K R Puram Dodballapur via Yelahanaka 

Already you have  changed the   e) Bangalore Cantt to Whitefield   as per IDS.

Following points to be added :

With RTI for SWR :

6. Status of Binny Mill land handing over by State Govt to SWR for  Bangalore city station expansion.

7. Status of  Upgrading Biyapanhalli and Bangalore city stations as World  Class Stations  with Biyapanhalli as third terminal in Bangalore city

8. Status of Doubling of Track between Yesvanthpur to Yelahanak and Yelahanka to K R Puram ( budget sanctioned during Railway Budget 2009 and site survey has been completed )

9. Status of Integration at Yesvanthpur Railway Station Foot over Bridge with NAMMA METRO  Yesvanthpur Station as Promised in BMLTA meeting. 

10. Track Utilization between  Chikbanavar  to Nelamangala ( recently I have observed  Grass / small bushes have grown on the track which was commissioned way back Dec'2008 )

 

Circular Rail ?

Naveen - 15 May, 2010 - 12:05

SB - Is CRS being referred to as circular rail anywhere else other than in misleading press reports ? CTTP makes no mention of any circular rail - only commuter rail.

A question can be included, such as -- "Though CRS has been recommended in all traffic studies since 1969, there has been no move so far from the authorities. When will city residents see better commitment on this with track doubling & station construction at various intermediate city locations to run dependable trains & make CRS a success, instead of running a few scattered trains inbetween other inter-city schedules with only existing infrastructure, which is doomed to failure & will not serve much for the city ?"

You can phrase the query better !  Rest all questions seem okay to me.

There are two terms

silkboard - 15 May, 2010 - 12:22

Naveen, in the recent statements in the press, the word circular rail has been used. It might be that what state government is talking about is different from what is proposed in CTTP. It will be best to ask this clarification too in the RTIs.

Let me merge from our comments above:

RTI to State Govt

To be asked to GoK. We will send the RTI to IDD.

Please answer the following questions regarding a proposal to run local trains on South Western Railway's broad guage tracks within Bangalore Metropolitan Region. This proposal is being referred to as Circular Rail, and is sometimes also mentioned as Commuter Rail.

  1. Share details of cost sharing agreement between GoK and SWR regarding Commuter or Circular Rail  that were recently announced by a few ministers via local newspapers.
  2. Which department or agency within Government of Karnataka is responsible for finalizing the project proposal.
  3. Please provide the details on how the cost of the project was estimated - who did the estimate, and what are the major cost components (cost breakup)
  4. Is Circular Rail different from the Commuter Rail system proposed in CTTP 2007? If yes, then share the proposed route map.
  5. Details of Public Consultations done or planned for the Circular Rail Project
  6. Minutes of last 3 meetings held between Government of Karnataka (Infrastructure Development Department) and South Western Railways.

RTI to South Western Railways

A) Please answer the following questions regarding a proposal to run local trains on South Western Railway's broad guage tracks within Bangalore Metropolitan Region. This proposal is being referred to as Commuter Rail, and is sometimes also mentioned as Circular Rail.

  1. Share details of cost sharing agreement between GoK and SWR regarding Commuter or Circular Rail  that were recently announced by a state and central ministers via local newspapers.
  2. Provide the details on how the cost of the project was estimated - who did the estimate, and what are the major cost components (cost breakup)
  3. Please share the proposed route map

B) Not related to the Circular or Commuter Rail proposal directly, please provide following information regarding SWR's assets and operations in the Bangalore Metropolitan Region.

  1. What is the utilization of track capacity at following stretches. a) between Yelahanaka to Chikballapur, b) Bangalore City to Bidadi, c) Yesvanthpur to Hebbal, d) Banaswadi to  Anekal, and e) Bangalore Cantt to Whitefield
  2. List at least 2 stretches where SWR does not have enough land available for doubling the track between Byappanahalli and Anekal.
  3. Excluding land costs, what will be the approximate cost of doubling the railway tracks between Banaswadi and Anekal at 2009 or 2010 cost levels
  4. Minutes of last 5 meetings held between South Western Railways (SWR) and Government of Karnataka (GoK) to discuss Railways projects in Karnataka.
  5. Alternatively, if SWR is aware of any meeting held with GoK to discuss commuter/Circular railway for Bangalore, please share minutes of the same.

Comments ASAP everyone. Will mail these RTIs during the coming week.


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