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Good attempt Idiotspam,

       Though I am not aware of other cities, I can safely comment that the Singapore Metro map shown here includes a lot of future lines. Work on three of the seven merto lines shown here will not start for the next five years. Three of these are now operational and work on the circle line has been in progess for too long now and will be not be completed before 2011. Having stayed in Singapore for the past 18 months and extensively used the public transport systems there (btw, I am planning a post on how better the bus system is in Bangalore!!), I would want to opine that the comparative pictures you have put up are not proper.

       Another reson why I believe that this is incorrect comparison. The Singapore map shown here includes the metro map and the feeder LRT sections. But the one for bangalore is only the Metro lines. If you add all the 'proposed' monorail routes, it looks a lot more complete, probably a little too excessive.

There is already talk of a fourth line to Whitefield. Add a few monorails line proposed by Scomi. Yes, I agree we have just started.

A little off the topic, taking a look at the berlin and London maps presented here, I get a feeling that we need some software systems to guide us on the routes to take within the city. I am curious to know how people there decide on which interchanges to use to travel from one station to another. Sometimes, if you have too many possible ways, you may not understand what will be right route at what point of the day!!

-Srivatsava V

http://srivatsava-vajapeyam.blogspot.com/

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The image might be incorrect but the comparision is not. Even a current state singapore metro map will serve singapore better than our metro does for Bangalore. Bottomline we need to see how rest of Bangalore need to be covered by metro/other train backbone service.

Here is the mono overlaid map

Let us look at numbers

Singapore carries 4.5 mil daily on its bus+metro combined for a population of 4.5mil. While BMTC alone carries 3.7 mil daily for its 8 mil population. Tokyo carries 27.4 mil daily for its resident 12.5 mil population. We should look at how Tokyo is doing it and learn some lessons. No wonder their network looks like a spaghetti.

Secondly I do not believe the metro extensions are being planned properly. We can fork out the metro end points. See stockholm and paris lines. Their lines branch out after a few common stops to serve different end points along the same direction.

What are areas currently uncovered do you think can be served by forking out the current metro lines?

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IDS - Most informative.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, these complicated networks have evolved over a long time, whilst we are only just about beginning. The costs & land issues are also much more complex in our cities than abroad.

I dont think it will be possible to build such systems very fast - some have taken over a hundred years to emerge into what they are today !

I had the opportunity to see bangalore metro's planned future alignments which also has forks as suggested by you - in fact, Delhi metro's lines are also going to have such branches to improve connectivity. All this is going to take time, though.

They first have to have the spine laid out & then make additions as necessary, which I think they will in the future.

The ridership nos. with BMTC being only 3.7 million is because of inefficiency due to heavy loads on the roads & lack of punctuality by buses. Once some mass transit systems are in place, these nos. are bound to increase as dependence on private transport will reduce.

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I dont think it will be possible to build such systems very fast - some have taken over a hundred years to emerge into what they are today

This is a very good point. If we think it is going to take us that long to serve the population of Bangalore using trains then it cannot be a solution in the short term. What then will bump up that 3.7 million to atleast serve 8 million without running buses one behind the other all over town and bringing down the road system? it is the 8 minus 3.7 million that is clogging up the roads today? What is going to get them out of their cars? Clearly there is no answer now.

Big 10 dropping off SB on airport road is not going to help him get to bagmane. Sanjay nagar to Bagmane for Navshot is a no go right now. For me Sanjay nagar to mg road is a no go even if metro comes on line the way it is planned now. There are more such cases with no solution. Where are the answers?

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Tokyo mass transit services 27.4 million passengers everyday [Source] and the network that does that looks like this

Our metro network looks like childs play in perspective. If people put up their feet and relax after reach 1 is completed you will know we have not even begun. If you thought the trees that are going now or the shops that are acquired now are too much, wait till the network starts looking like this.

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