Extend or overlap BIG 10 services

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Written By nl.srinivas - 28 May, 2009

Bangalore BMTC Bus suggestion Routing Big10 Transportation public transport

I happened to travel via shivajinagar instead of taking the bus to KBS to reach domlur from sanjay nagar. I reached indian express hoping to get 331-A. It did come but it was already full and around 10 more people got in to the bus. The bus was literally full with just about people managing to find place to stand. On the way I say two BIG-10s which were with more than half their seats unoccupied.  Doesn't it make sense to extend BIG-10 running on arirport road toll indian express or shivajinagar? The Yalahanka BIG-10 seems to be doing good after extending it till shivajinagar. I cannot comment on other BIG-10s since I have never used them.

And I don't think I have to say anything on Blue-line and Orange-line buses. It is an idea which has completely gone wrong.

COMMENTS


What's is the point?

nl.srinivas - 28 May, 2009 - 09:45

Hi,
   What's is the point in running a service which doesn't serve the purpose? The idea was to run big-10s on arterial roads and connect them using kendra sarige buses. But as you know kendra sariga han't worked well.   If you at least plan BIG-10 routes so that the routes overlap and one need not catch another bus, then it will be more useful I guess.


Big 10 to Big 5

Rithesh - 28 May, 2009 - 14:12

Prof AM has been talking about this plan for quite sometime. He is planning to convert Big 10 into Big 5. For example the Yelahanka Big 10 bus instead of stopping at Shivajinagar goes all the way to Electronic city.

Certainly the conversion of Big10 to Big5 should involve some study on the population movement patterns.

What Big 5 should ensure is that each of these Big5 bus routes intersect every other Big5 route atleast at one point, so that when people have to reach from one destination to another they just need to change one bus. Hypotetically if we assume that a Big5 service runs from Yellahanka to E-City and another Big5 runs from Penya to Bannergatta - these two routes can intersect at say Indian Express building. If a person needs to travel from Yellahanka to Bannergatta, then he will have to change the buses at Express building. He will not have to use one extra bus like the HoHo (Kendra Sarige) bus, thus reducing the number or changes he will have do.

Rithesh

Big 10 to Big 5 & Grid system

pathykv - 28 May, 2009 - 16:40

 Mr. Muralidhar will be able to throw more light on this intersecting aspect from the 'Grid System' proposal submitted by the then 'Commuter comfort Task Force' to BMTC about a year back.

K.V.Pathy

Big10 better....than big5....

Srivatsava - 30 May, 2009 - 10:56

    I should concede that I was amongst the brigade rooting for Big 10 to be made into Big5... But then, I have a compelling reason not do so - Extensibility and scalability.

     If we make this into Big5, we may never be able to add more roads to the model. Tanisandra Main road and hennur main road may never make it to the trunk route. So lets retain the Big10 without making Big5. Instead, we only need to extend the big10 to the outer edge of the CBD. I have posted the same on http://bangalore.praja.in/blog/rithesh/2009/04/24/revised-kendra-sarige-hoho-routes#comment-13691

   All the content in the above post should hold good, except the point about merging two routes into one.

As stated above the reasons are two fold

Extensibility - is the ability to add more new roads to the network. If we merge them, we have to find two roads(in completely different directions) to add a new route. And 10, or 12, is not too many routes, more so since they operate mainly on one road.

Scalability/Flexibility - When we merge two routes, we are forcing upon ourselves to provide the same frequency and convenience on two routes. Not merging them will allow us to have different frequencies on different  roads. So, if we add Tanisandra main road, we can have buses running at 10 minutes once there, while we can have buses at 4 minutes frequency on Hosur road.

     Another point is that if we introduce Volvos on Big10 routes, we can have shorter trips for Volvo on the same route. For example, On Bannergatta Road, we can have the Volvos going upto Meenakshi Temple, but the Normal/Suvarna buses going upto Bannergatta. Or Magadi road Big10 could upto Magadi/Sunkadakatte, but Volvo big10 could go only upto Kamakshipalya/ Or take the Ring road to Nandini Layout...

Vasanth-sir, Ritesh, Murali-sir, Prof. AM... what do you have to say on this??

-Srivatsava V

hi

balajiolety - 28 May, 2009 - 07:22

 by that logic...you have to extend Big-10  to all the routes where the buses run ful.........

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