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Written By admin123 - 21 August, 2008

Bangalore egovernance BBMP Koramangala Action Flyovers and underpasses Participation

BBMP website's RTI section has the RFP uploaded for grade separator being planned at the junction of 100 ft Inner Ring Road in Koramangala (click here). How about an experiment to give chance for members, even the remote/online-only ones, to go beyond posts and comments? Its simple - help us track this project to death, meaning, ask BBMP for details at every milestone.

Purpose won't be to torment and torture BBMP with RTIs, but, to work with them to get an idea of what BBMP should do to proactively radiate all information about its projects. If nothing else, we will at least get to know the difficulty they face in being more transparent about their projects - is it their internal IT systems, is it about their officer's habbits, or do they hide information on purpose? Lets just try and know.

This is a call to action. Journalism isn't the only way of creating news, activism and participation are some other. We aren't here to pursue journalism, only the latter two. And this is an experiment in that direction.

Right on top of BBMP's RFP document, you see this:

  • "1.2 The Objective and the Scope of the assignment are as follows.
    • a) Preparation of Feasibility report.
    • b) Detailed Surveys as indicated in Terms of Reference which is needed for feasibility study.
    • c) Traffic management Planning.
    • d) Detailed Cost estimation, Economical evaluation and Bill of Quantities.
    • e) Carry out impact assessment and risk analysis.
    • f) Preparation of DPR as JNNURM Complaint.
    • g) Develop Implementation schedule."

All we want to do is track the project on all of above. Last point above is an implementation schedule. Plus, the RFP mentions some deadlines as well (can read them yourself, or else this post will turn too boring). We will check with BBMP on those each time a deadline approaches.

Work involved here is easy - keep calling and emailing BBMP as per a schedule. If they don't answer, you would be sending RTI letters. If you are remote (not in Bangalore), we will help by filing RTIs - you give over the questions in a document, local members will print and mail them along with Rs 10 required per application.

So let us all know, right here, via comment, or private message to "admin" if you want to join this experimental project. We call this an experiment, because we want to see what happens if all we simply do is take interest, merely by checking and asking around.

Look forward to the comments with interest. Low interest in this 'project' will simply tell us that we have more work to - either have to reach more people, or have to think of other ideas to tap the power of collaboration.

cheers,

{know, care, participate}

COMMENTS

Paging IDS

tsubba - 26 August, 2008 - 17:01

IDS, i have a request. you are the boss on the various codes and how they fit. MORTH,IRC+, IRC-. over the weekend, or when ever you get time, can you do a small forum post on these things. What the different codes are and how they operate. atleast some pointers about how you got whatever gyaan you got. its ok even if it is rough and crude. important thing is to get the idea going. thanks a million.

Re: Paging IDS

idontspam - 27 August, 2008 - 06:06

Not an expert on IRC as there is just too much stuff in there. I wanted to just validate one thing and here it is

While IRC is used as an excuse to not do certain things, I can say none of the streets in Bangalore follow ALL IRC specs. I am not sure if there is database of all the roads with their capacity, specs and classification to enable proper planning and validate if they follow IRC or not. There is ample scope to accept Praja suggestions and implement within the ambit of IRC. We can use IRC codes to validate praja suggestions before putting them across to the various people

exact location & attn. ids

tsubba - 21 August, 2008 - 10:27

where exactly is this? sony world junction? we could start with running a poll to see if people really think this is necessary. public opinion survey is one of the required documents in the rfp. ids... from that document, though tyou might be interested... "Detailed justifications shall be provided wherever deviations from Indian Standards, IRC Code of Practice, MORT&H specification and other standards including safety standards during execution are contemplated."

TS - I am counting on Sudhir

idontspam - 21 August, 2008 - 14:54

This proves there can be an MORTH/IRC+ (even though this clause is probably used for MORTH/IRC-) as long as deviations are documented. I need this validated. If you remeber this was one of my questions to Sudhir. I am waiting for him to get me answers from his friends and send me IRC 36 specs. He hasnt gotten around to it yet.

Re:exact location & attn. ids

ramesh_mbabu - 22 August, 2008 - 04:34

Polling is not a way to decide the suitability/necessity of such an infrastructrue project. There should be scientific reasons behind it, say if PCU is over a certain number on a 4 way junction the traffic can not be handled by a signal and it require a flyover/grade separator with certain design. It should also consider future growth in near future. How do you do a poll on such an issue? Only for those residing around (personal interest will be more than the public interest in thsi case), or only those who commute through the junction regularly?
Ramesh.

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